If you want the matte look and keep the original color, then a low VOC water-based finish like Loba Invisible Protect would be best. Unfortunately we don’t have heart pine floors here so I’m not experienced enough to give a professional opinion sorry. These floors are beautiful random width french white oak. May I ask, what is the type of wood and stain color used in the picture with you in it at the very top? Sorry I can’t be of more help here. It can be a bit intimidating. From the photos it looks like the floor guy did a great job as well. If Jacobean and Medium Brown are to dark why don’t you try blending them with Natural to lighten them up but still keep the tones you want. Are the floors quite old? Our style is cozy and comfortable – not too contemporary and definitely not modern. As far as number of coats, personally I would put on 3 thin coats for a rental. Hopefully this time you will get them the perfect color :). Something like this: http://www.houzz.com/photos/87686/Oakley-Home-Builders-traditional-kitchen-chicago, Any advice you could give would be great! If done well you shouldn’t be able to notice from a standing height. The issue will be with the fir and cypress, the oak takes a stain well but the other two are more challenging to get even coverage. Thanks!! Since we don’t, we ended up going the DIY route. Color is very subjective, what one person loves another may not. I am in Georgia or I would just hire you : ). That would look great with light gray walls if you want something different and trendy. Natural wood tones vary, so expect your final stain color to vary slightly from board to board. Sorry you had a bad experience with the first guy you hired. I would get a few stain colors and do some testing on a small area first. The finish system used on that floor had very high VOC’s and with good reason they are starting to be banned across the country. Is there anything that can be done about some of the dark stain remaining between butt joints of the wood? Thank you. Start with 50/50 and go from there. we just installed red oak flooring want a medium brown no red or orange. You could also try colors like Provincial and Special Walnut to lighten and lift the color a bit but still retain the “coffee brown tone” you’re after. This step is done in-between them being sanded and the clear coats of finish being applied. I’m going for a transitional rather than traditional look and was going to use Jacobean thinking it was a medium stain but it looks a bit dark and flat in my rooms. The first two would have a matte finish. As you know, it’s going to be a little difficult tying in all 3 different woods downstairs. We want to keep that nice medium cocoa brown of walnut and see the lovely grain lines but are stuck on how. Sorry, I should have said the kitchen cabinets were installed in the 1980’s, and they’re that medium oak color, similar to golden oak I think. Just found your blog – great information. We’re installing new red oak select in 1 bedroom and hallway. 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I am in the process of staining my red oak hardwood floors. Try to find a color close to what you want and then mix and sample colors till you find the perfect one. Sorry about your bad outcome with your floors :(. And does the dark floor show dust alot ?? You have my appreciation. The kind of flooring you have shouldn’t be the only deciding factor though. If I get up the nerve to go darker, is there a stain that blends well with light and medium oak as well as cherry? I’m not loving the colour:((((( any suggestions? Hi I’m having a hard time deciding whether to stain my floors. Let’s go through a few steps to see what your decision should be. Not only a sample of the stain, but also with the finish applied as the color will change again. As my advice is always… test a few mixes on a scrap piece first. That way the hardwood professional can sand, stain and finish them onsite to the clients choice of stain color and finish system. We have a problem don’t know if you can help. Hi Tadas, I own a sawmill, dry kiln, planer, etc.. I’m concerned with all of the different wood and age of wood that we’re going to have a hodge podge of colors so am hoping the floors will tie it all together. Hi Tadas, were redoing our floors and walls we want to do the the walls edge come gray (light gray) and the floor we want to do darker but not very dark like ebony or jacobean a b;t lighter and not red or orange… what do u recommend that will compliment the walls and vica versa?thanks! Yes you’re right about the darker stains, especially if the floor has been water-popped. To get the deeper darker color you will need to water pop your floor. Surprising, I haven’t come up with any reference to this problem online. All the walls are off-white and the furniture is a mix between white and black. Treating raw wood with conditioner helps prevent streaks and blotches by evening out the absorption of oil-based stains. I am making some 8″ red oak plank floors for our office and have had others show interest in buying some. Minwax Color Guide. Remember… test patches are your friend :). Your white furniture will definitely stand out. If you are happy with them then that’s all that matters :). You obviously know what you are talking about! We love the natural color but some tell us it will turn very yellow and we dont want that. Our kitchen and family room open up to each other like one great big room. Several, even the Pure- seem to tint the walnut a bit reddish- which we don’t want. After much research online I can’t find any reference to bleed back of OLD stain in this way. and now we have to sand and reapply. Since I decided, JUST to have the floors sanded and polyurethane, I thought any floor guy should be able to do that. I’m thinking maybe the Golden Oak downstairs on all floors, but I don’t want it to be too yellow. We found some pieces of the cypress in the basement, and our contractor should be able to give us a piece of oak. We have created samples on our scrap wood, but for some reason they keep turning out looking like we just painted the wood with whatever color sample we used – none of them look beautiful & natural like your photos of floors you’ve done in RM. Hope you sell your house quick Karishma. Cedar Creek is a manufacturer and wholesale distributor of quality building products that specializes in servicing the retail building materials. Nothing can replace a close-up real-life match between your potential floor color and existing furniture like a good stain sample. If the joints were tight to begin with, could aggressive sanding get rid of the remaining stain or is it something that you just have to live with? You’re welcome, glad to be of help. I tried half Jacobean and half weathered oak, still light. It’s always hard to give advice over the computer without seeing your home in person and your wall and furnishing colors as well as your decorating tastes. My sister in law did Red Oak stain and I love the darkness but it has a little too much read. They already look great in their natural colors. The trim matches the rest of the trim in the house and a black rail is a very clean classic look. Thanks! It was moved off a farm and into town in the 1940’s and a second floor was added on. I hope you can get it sorted out Janice so you can enjoy your floors. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. is 1,200 sq ft ..high ceiling & beautiful light… Afraid to ask …do we need to re-sand): & wipe the excess stain as we apply ?? As you can see these English Chestnuts look very different. My home has original oak floors from 1885 that are very thin at this point. And yes there is a difference between the two different stain manufacturers. Will most people who want a plank floor want it naturally colored? It’s 50% Minwax Sedonna red mixed with 50% English Chestnut penetrating stain. Hi Tadas, I never knew picking a floor color would be so difficult. Thinking jacobean, dark walnut or coffee brown. Our furniture is similiar in coloring. Let us know how it goes. The project was about 400sqft comprising of the kitchen, dining room and living room. I’m thinking of refinishing my 32 year old oak floors (kitchen, great room-open floor plan). So today, I'm sharing an updated tour... welcome to our farmhouse! Love your site! It definitely has nothing to do with subfloor and air. Plus it’s your house and you can do what you like :). Duraseal stain are one of the two proffesional stain used by most flooring contractors, with the one being Bona. I cannot thank you enough for the blog.Really thank you! As far as the door I would stain or paint it a different color. Thank you so much for you help! That will keep it dark but add the brown that you want. Really appreciate this information! I would suggest a high quality 2 component water based finish in a matte sheen. He put one coat on and it wasn’t dark enough so he added another ( he may have tweaked the formula a bit not sure) and the color was perfect; however after a few hours – of course after he left, lines started forming in between the cracks of the wood, (lihter in color). It’s not always easy to get the perfect color is it. Having floors stained 75% dark walnut and 25% english chestnut. or 50/50. x 2-3/4 in. I greatly appreciate your help. Thank you for sharing! To be honest I couldn’t tell you the color unless I had a look at it in person. You could also look into fuming the floors first to turn them grey and then stain over the top. I like more of a brown but not too red or orange… thank you. I wanted a light grey so I started testing Ribio Monocoat. the current stain is ebony, almost black (my flooring guy said this is not even a stain and the floor has been painted black) on red oak had wood. . Any input you might have would be very, very appreciated! For your dark expresso color try mixing Ebony with Jacobean or Dark Walnut like you said. Red oak and fir are very different woods as you know but they aren’t too far apart in the color spectrum thankfully. Cherry 235 ... Minwax ® Water Based Wood Stain English Oak. That’s my favorite one and I’m VERY curious to know what the wood and stain is! Is there a great Rubio color for walnut or another finish you’d recommend for someone very health/safety conscious? And they look great when done properly as you can see with this stain mix of Sedona Red + Ebony…. Golden oak. I thought from the samples taken it would be darker. None are what we have in mind. Anything between 30-50% is good. I think the 12′ – 16′ lengths would definitely be marketable. Thanks Tadas. Great idea. THE SPECIFICS: The floors were stained with Golden Brown and then finished with OSMO Hard Wax Oil. Thanks so much and hope you are doing well! Those floors from the 1950’s and up to the 2000’s turned that way because oil-based polyurethane was used. Natural. What are your suggestions? In this post, I'll try to catch you up on all that has happened in the dining room since we moved in. Still running the dehumidifier (December 2019 in WI). Hello Tadas, I have new 7″ plank Select White Oak that was stained with water based Duraseal Coffee Brown. Plus original 1888 douglas fir floors – wow! If I were to use Minwax Satin finish would that be protective enough or should I use something better? I wanted a medium brown stain without red or orange. The last house had #1 red oak and we stained in with Jacobean and loved the color. We want to look fairly contemporary and like the color of these photos. Warm Regards, Zo-An. To fix it you’ll need to allow sufficient time for the stain in the gaps to dry and then start over. Maybe I should do a more in depth blog post about this down the road. Thanks! In order to match the various colourings in the grains, I thought of investing in several different colours of putty. After it dried it looked horrible. What color do you suggest we stain our red oak floors to get the same affect or close to same color? Thank you so much for the information. Unfortunately, yes, you need to wipe off the excess stain as you apply it. If not you may have to get a custom blend mixed. Yes they can be stained, but it can be tricky staining tropical wood because of the natural oils in them. Thank you for taking the time to comment Faviola and I hope your hardwood floor refinishing project goes well! I recently refinished my 50 yr old red oak floors with minwax english chestnut in a satin finish. Do the test patches on all 3 woods as close to each other as possible so you can see how they look together. Happy to be of assistance Lawrence. We recently had our red oak floors sanded and asked our contractor to stain them dark prepared to see a color like in your above pic, unfortunately they tried a dark walnut and Jacobean and both looked to light even the ebony was pretty light with greenish tint. Stain samples on a white oak floor. Then apply another top coat or two over the top and the faux touch up will be sandwiched between the layers protecting it. Need to make a decision soon. If there are large areas of water damage or pet stains, then a dark stain and maybe a pre-color treatment might be able to adequately mask these areas and other imperfections, without having to do extensive repairs (assuming the wood itself is stable). The floors are varying shades of orange, a typical aged Brazilian cherry floor. We’re working with DuraSeal and expect to coat with oil based polyurethane. Sorry I can’t give you an exact formula Brian. Ask your local wood floor refinishing professional for their recommendations on what will work best for your floors under local conditions, they’ll be happy to help lead you in the right direction I’m sure. This blog is terrific and you are very kind to share your knowledge so generously!! For gaps, make sure they aren’t seasonal. Especially on the two different types of oak you’re thinking of choosing between. Minwax Wood Finish is a penetrating, oil-based stain that enhances wood grain with rich color in just one coat. I have no fear in that aspect(or even the machineing). I read somewhere (can’t find it now) that you can mix walnut (or dark walnut…I can’t remember which) with english chestnut for a really nice look. Thank you. black in some areas… & a beautiful dry ebony in other … He generously painted on the ebony stain …, & did not wipe … is this OK ? I should mention it is white oak quartersawn and rift. 2) Keep the floors natural or use a light colored stain (Golden Oak perhaps if your taste is country) and enjoy the difference in the woods. Aged Barrel. Sorry you have to deal with this, I know it can be frustrating when you invest a lot of money and things don’t turn out exactly how you want them to. It looks fine. Wondering if 25% Sedona red mixed with the Early American would give the brown a hint of red. Stain Gallery. Really helped me understand staining a little more! I’m pretty sure it was Duraseal. I’m ok with it, despite the dust and extra cleaning…….ugh. Just a thought and another option. That would be my first assumption. Do they have to fully sand down the floors and restain another color to achieve the color I want. Can you help? Aged Bronze Hand-Rubbed Stain. You’re paying for guys like Tadas professionalism and expertise! Yes it will be a bit of a challenge trying to tie in all that different wood together. These finishes accentuate the character of the wood, so if you have a lot of variation then it will be hard to mask that with a light color unfortunately. Hi tadas I have enjoyed reading the blog but have a question of my own my husband and I are building a home and I need to pick out the color I want for my floors I really love the darker shades but I am nervous my 115 lb dog is going to ruin them everyone keeps telling me if we go to dark it will show all the scratches is this true?? I mixed %50 ebony with 50% white. Was considering an ebony, Jacobean or dark oak but would value your thoughts as to what would give a wow factor…. DURA SEAL Penetrating Finish is a semi-transparent stain formulated to seal, color and provide exceptional durability when used on bare wood and masonry surfaces. I have 2 questions for you: 1) The polyurethane has started to peel up along the edges of the boards. As always to lots of testing on sample boards first before going ahead with the whole floor. 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